Wisconsin Deierling Update

On a whim the other day I ventured over to the LDS Church site - Family Search to check something out. It turned into a good day. There have been some changes and improvements to the site but I still find the search engine bizarre. At any rate, I was able to pull up some very nice data on the Wisconsin Deierling line.

To recap, there are three Deierling families I am trying to piece together. I usually refer to them as the Ohio family (mine), the Missouri family and the Wisconsin family. The Ohio family, at this point, is at a dead end with Gottleib Deierling, born in 1828 in Bavaria. The Missouri family stops with Philipp Jacob Deierling, born in Hassloch, Bavaria about 1816. Gottleib and Jacob and Jacob's family were on the same ship arriving in New York City 8-15-1853.



A "cousin" from the Missouri family said her grandmother said the family came first to Ohio (where Gottlieb obviously stayed) and then her line moved on to Missouri. She also said her grandmother said they were related to the Wisconsin Deirlings as well.

The treasure trove I uncovered at Family Search the last couple of days has to do with Wisconsin Philipp Deierling, who I now know is Philipp Peter Deierling. I figured out his wives (three of them), which wives his children belong to, his parents and grandparents. Somewhere in there I know the Ohio and Missouri groups fit.

Philipp Peter Deierling was born on 4/6/1822. He was baptised on 4/8/1822 at Evangelisch, Neustadt Haardt, Pfalz, Bavaria. The name on the record is spelled Deuerling, a variation I have often seen, and his parents are listed as Jacob Deuerling and Charlotta Jung. How insightful of the German's in 1822 to realize I was going to want to know the mother's maiden name.

A little more searching and I find the full names of Philipp's parents are: Johann Jakob Deierling and Charlotta Elisabetha Jung. They were born in 1791 and 1792 respectively. I also find other children.....but no Ohio Gottlieb or Missouri Jacob, doesn't mean they don't belong, there are gaps in the children's ages where they could "fit". In addition, if Ohio Gottlieb and Missouri Jacob are not Johann Jakob's children, he likely has brothers with families...just sayin'.

Long story short...Here's what I have so far:

Johann Diederich Deierling m. Maria Eva

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Their (known) children:

Philipp Gottlieb Deierling b. 1765

Philipp Henrich Deierling b. 1770

Johann Phillip Deierling b 1772

Johann Valentin Deierling b. 1776

These children were all baptised at Evangelisch, Hassloch,

Pfalz, Bavaria

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Philipp Gottlieb Deierling m. Anna Barbara Bindewald

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Their (known) children:

Justus Christoph Deierling b. 1789

Johann Jakob Deierling b. 1791

Johann Adam Deierling b. 1795

These children were all baptised at Evangelisch, Hassloch,

Pfalz, Bavaria

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Johann Jakob Deierling m. Charlotta Elizabetha Jung

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Their (known) children:

Barbara Deierling b. 1812

Anna Maria Deierling b. 1816

Jacob Deierling b. 1817

Charlotta Deierling b. 1819

Philipp Peter Deierling b. 1822

Catharina Deierling b. 1828

George Deierling b. 1830

Daniel Deierling b. 1832

These children were all baptised at Evangelisch, Neustadt

Haardt, Pfalz, Bavaria.

Now, looking at all those names, does anyone question that Missouri Philipp Jacob Deierling and Ohio Gottlieb Deierling belong with this group? The names just keep getting repeated and are repeated again in subsequent generations, although Americanization takes over and we begin to see first and middle names instead of the old German naming custom of the first name being a spiritual name and the second name the "call" name.

So, Wisconsin Philipp - here's his story.

Philipp m. Apollonia Geiger on 5/20/1847 at Winzingen, Neustadt, Bayern, Germany

They had one child, Elizabetha born 3/27/1848 in Winzingen

It is assumed Apollonia died, perhaps in childbirth.

Philipp m. Barbara Langenbacher on 10/23/1851 at Evangelisch-Reforiete Kirche Neustadt (A/D Haardt), Bayern, Germany

Sometime between this date and 1855 the family emigrated and landed in New Orleans. I cannot locate a ships record for this event, but it is do doubt it is them. In 1855 a child named Heline is born in New Orleans and in 1857 a son, Charles. Charles and his mother do not appear in the 1860 census, but we find the father with a new wife. Perhaps Philipp lost a second wife in child birth - or the yellow fever that was taking so many lives in New Orleans during that period of time.

Philipp m. Charlotte Koehler 10/25/1858

Charlotte is 16 years old to Philipp's 36 and is possibly a niece of his second wife, Barbara Langenbacher.

The 1860 Census finds Philipp, Charlotte, Elizabeth and Heline living in Milwaukee where Philipp is listed as being a crockery dealer. In 1870 and 1880 they are in Watertown, Wisconsin and he has become a retail grocer. He and Charlotte would have 10 children, only two of which married and had a family. Philipp died sometime between 1889 and 1891 and his widow joined her children who had moved to LaCrosse, Wisconsin. The boys were barbers or cigar makers and the girls worked in retail shops. Elizabeth and Heline both married but I have not yet tracked their families down.

Another mystery solved this week - you will notice Philipp had a brother Jacob born in 1817. He is the same Jacob Deierling that I have mentioned before as appearing in the census records in Milwaukee. Jacob was a barber. Here is Jacob's family.

Jacob Deierling m. Anna Maria Pfirrmann 8/10/1840 at Evangelisch-Reforiete Kirche Neustadt (A/D Haardt), Bayern, Germany. All their children were born in Neustadt.

Heinrich Deierling b. 1842, died 1846

Jacob Deierling b. 1844

Charlotte Deierling b. 1846

Brutus Deierling b. 1848

Except for Brutus, the names look familiar.

The towns mentioned, Hassloch and Neustadt are in an area of Germany today known as Rhineland-Palatinate. The specific District is Bad Dürkheim . The area was only part of Bavaria for about 130 years, it doesn't even touch Bavaria as a matter of fact. It's that separate little red piece.

More another time.

An Interesting Deierling Tidbit

I have been contacted by someone who can hopefully shed some light on my Deierling theory concerning the Ohio, Missouri & Wisconsin Deierling families. As I've posted, I've always thought there was a connection and according to this new "cousin" Sandy, who contacted me a week or so ago, Jacob, Phillip and Gottleib may have been brothers. Sandy's aunt told her about the relationship years ago (we are never interested enough when we are young to write things down) and unfortunately the aunt recently passed away. The aunt definitely said the family came to Ohio first before they settled in Missouri and that they were definitely related to the Wisconsin Deierlings. Brothers? Cousins? One of the two I am sure at this point. I am hoping Sandy can find information in her aunt's papers - the name of Jacob's father would help a lot. It it is Phillip I will be thrilled.

German naming conventions are complex but explain the repeating of a name in a family. I suspect the Deierlings in America come from two or more lines, explaining why the name Jacob shows up so often. So, I have to be careful not to jump on the idea the three men mentioned above are brothers - just because I want it to be so. I DO think all the Deierlings ARE related, the name is extremely unusual and is dieing out as many of them, my line and the Wisconsin line have Americanized the name to Darling.

So, we have:

Jacob Philip Deierling b. 1816 in Bavaria, Arrived in America 1853, settled in Missouri, a farmer.

Philip Deierling b. 1822 in Bavaria, Arrived in America before 1855, probably in New Orleans, settled in Wisconsin, a grocer.

Gottleib Deierling b. 1828 in Bavaria, Arrived in America 1853 on the same boat with Jacob, settled in Ohio, drove a stage coach for awhile, later a farmer.

Just to add to the confusion, there is another Deierling in Wisconsin, another Jacob.

Jacob Deierling b. 1817 in Germany, Arrived in America 1849, settled in Wisconsin, was a Barber and the whole family disappears between 1856 and the 1860 census. None of them are in the 1870 Census. I did find his dtr Charlotte in 1880 where she shows as married and in Kentucky. I believe his oldest son Jacob was in the Civil War and died there. I do think this Jacob was related to Phillip (of Wisconsin) as one of Philip's sons was a barber, another a cigar maker and the girls (most of whom didn't marry) worked in hat shops and candy stores - a common theme.

OK, this family disappears but another Jacob of similar age shows up in Ohio in the 1860 Census

Jacob Deierling b. 1820 in Bavaria, Arrived in America before 1851, and I can't believe my eyes, the census says he is a Musician. He and his wife Sarah had 6 children in 10 years before he passed away at the age of 49 in Cincinnati, Ohio.

Don't have a clue who these 2 Jacob's are, but must keep them in mind because Sandy's aunt may have said something about being connected to the Wisconsin and Ohio Deierlings, but that doesn't mean it's necessarily Philip and Gottleib.

Well, now that was a ramble. Genealogy is like a puzzle, putting all the pieces in the right place is difficult and takes an enormous amount of time. I'm crossing my fingers that Sandy comes up with something concrete so I can put some of this supposition to rest and register some more relatives correctly.

Note: All these born dates are "about" dates and are usually off by a year or so. I am always amazed at the variety of ages people report on the census - I think some people just have no clue how old they are and every 10 years they just make it up.